Copyright 2004, Roadracing World Publishing, Inc.

FIRST PERSON/OPINION

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Correct me if I’m wrong, but Dunlop’s position is that they need to protect their technology between themselves and the Dunlop sponsored teams as to tire developments.

Now, my belief was and is that that was what their private pre-season and now January test dates were for. The TEAM tests, organized by Yoshi and others, was to spread the cost of track rental so that teams could dial in their set-ups for the different tracks. This I believed had little to do with specific tire testing but more to testing new parts and pieces and suspension set-up.

Now Dunlop is trying to make us believe these dates were for their benefit. I don’t think so! Dunlop is saying that the other tire manufacturers can get their own dates, well seems their #1 competitor did have their own specific test dates prior to Dunlop at Daytona and seems like they have their s#@t together.

Dunlop says if the other tire manufacturers don’t like it to get their own test dates. No, Dunlop, get your own to correct your obvious problems and leave the team tests alone.

The only way I can see for them to recover the good will and good name of Dunlop is to contribute these test days to all teams as it was and if needed get their own private test dates as required.

Carl Foster
Welaka, Florida



FIRST PERSON/OPINION

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I have just read the press release issued by Dunlop Tire Company’s advertising and public relations agency. Do I understand correctly that Dunlop’s position is that a history of supporting the AMA, an organization whose ethics and business practices have been subject to repeated popular scrutiny, entitles an entity to practices that are, at best, morally questionable and at worst, monopolistic and illegal?

I am curious about Dunlop’s statement that, “as other tire manufacturers begin to renew their race support efforts once again in the U.S. during the 2004 season, we welcome the challenge; rigorous competition only makes for better racing.” Is the implication that welcoming competition equates to forcefully limiting the opportunities of said competition’s participation and testing?

As a reader who respects and relies on Roadracing World’s reporting, and who wonders if he is missing some of the facts, I am interested to know if it agrees that Dunlop’s actions represent “accepted practice in European, MotoGP, and World Superbike racing.” I cannot recall a story indicating similar practices in European, MotoGP, and World Superbike racing.

Based on what I have read in various RoadRacingworld.com website articles, I am also curious to know if its editors recognize any misleading implications of Dunlop’s statement that non-Dunlop teams will be able to secure “their own dates at AMA venues to do their own development work.” Did I understand incorrectly that the majority of non-conflicting and otherwise desirable testing opportunities had been purchased by Dunlop, subsequentially excluding non-Dunlop teams?

Interested in the impressions of others…

Christopher Clark
Former MRA and AMA road racer, current enthusiast
Boulder, Colorado



FIRST PERSON/OPINION

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Mike Buckley can attempt to spin this situation as much as he wants. It was bad form, period. Dunlop has alienated professional teams, club racers and race fans with their underhanded maneuver.

Spin it all you want, Dunlop. You’ve lost countless cutomers who don’t buy your insincere attempt to explain your reasons for hoarding track time. I look forward to seeing Eric Bostrom wipe up the floor with Dunlop-shod racers this season.

Ian Gillies
AFM #308
Alameda, California



FIRST PERSON/OPINION

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In 2003 I purchased six sets of Dunlop tires for my nine streetbikes and one racebike. Unless Dunlop rescinds its decision on the buy-up of test dates and allows other manufacturers access to those dates, in 2004 I will not be buying any Dunlop tires.

I encourage others to also boycott Dunlop.

Dan Moricoli
Wellington, Florida FL



FIRST PERSON/OPINION

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Read the Dunlop statement.

As in politics, the cover-up is worse than the initial stupidity. Given exploding tires, any effort to preclude other teams from full testing and safety is unconscionable.

If the AMA fails to step in and protect its riders, it deserves to get its ass sued off.

What about a nice article on the historical record of the AMA whoring with Dunlop?

Mike Mc Allister
Lahaska, Pennsylvania



FIRST PERSON/OPINION

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Buckley’s cup runneth over. Instead of expending energy here in the states to seek revenge for what WSBK did to Dunlop over there, why not put that energy into tire development? WOW! There’s a thought. Enough of the diplomatic pussy footin’ around–pull your head out, Buck. I foresee you losing through three jobs at once, ala Ed Youngblood.

Todd Erickson
CCS #251
Janesville, Wisconsin



FIRST PERSON/OPINION

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We shouldn’t forget that these are the same people who opposed rain tires because they were more concerned about their advantage than peoples’ lives.

Mike McAllister
Lahaska, Pensylvania



FIRST PERSON/OPINION

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I applaud Mr. Cilley from New Hampshire for going against the grain on this anti-Dunlop attack. The way Dunlop handled this particular situation was kind of slimy, but they are good capitalists and given the same situation I would have chosen to do the same thing. If my tires were disintegrating at racetracks all over one of the biggest markets in the world in very public situations, I would want to take my testing in-house as well. Mr. Jim Rhodes, who helped me a great deal this past year getting Michelins while I raced AMA Supersport, will no doubt arrange a fine schedule for Ducati Austin and the other Michelin-supported AMA teams that will surely result in a great deal of success. I believe the backlash (as bandwagon-esque and immature as it is) by the general public against Dunlop will result in better product from all tire companies in the future. And I think the pure big-eyed fear coming from Dunlop should be an indication to the general public that Michelin tires are indeed as good if not better than most of the tires that Dunlop produces, despite the past AMA race results. Boycotting Dunlop for being Good Capitalists (i.e. Good Americans) is akin to boycotting all shops and retail outlets from California because of a proposed mandatory donor organ plan: Lame.

Quentin Wilson
AMA Supersport # 808
Chatsworth, California



FIRST PERSON/OPINION

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I have to say Jim Allen and Dunlop have just shown how big their balls are. At the end of the year we will see if Championships are won by balls alone. They are making a business decision and like any business decision some are good and some turn out disasterous.

Myself I am cheering for the Ducati Austin team and all other teams and riders running non-Dunlop rubber. If nothing else this year will be interesting with all of the new machinery, new classes and now political twists. Just imagine the factory Michelin technicians working with factory Ducati men against the best Japan has to offer. Sounds like Mr. Allen just reacted to the huge lump in the back of his pants. Can’t wait.

Steve Bailey
Brantford, Ontario, Canada



FIRST PERSON/OPINION

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WOW, makes you wonder if Michelin had thought of this loophole that all of the sudden people would be stating how bad of a product they have and how they will vote with their wallet. I think it’s BS. Business is business and Dunlop just happened to find the loophole first. Who wouldn’t want the track to themselves for testing and not have to worry who is looking over their shoulder. And by the responses some of these people are sending in you would think everyone rides a GSX-R1000 at 200 mph every race. I don’t recall hearing about any “blowouts” from any tire manufacturer for the club races. Our team currently runs Dunlops and have had great success with them and will continue to stay with Dunlop until (in our eyes) their product does not stand up to the test. To everyone else, grow up, now AMA can fix the loophole so that everyone can find something alse to whine about next year.

This is MY opinion, and no matter the differences, I still wish EVERYONE luck and safe riding no matter what or where they are riding!

Shane L. Williams
WERA Endurance
Cincinnati, Ohio



FIRST PERSON/OPINION

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I feel Dunlop has done nothing wrong or unfair. As stated in some previous post, Dunlop has a right to buy whatever track rental they want. If they want to invite other teams or not, that is at their discretion. I will tell you that I have raced on all of the major tire brands and they are all great tires. I also hope that nobody takes this out on our local Dunlop tire distributor, Sport Tire Services, because they are a great bunch of guys, along with all the other tire supporter guys. So for now to us little guys, I don’t think it matters. Let all the big wigs fight it out and in the end hopefully they will just create better tires at a cheaper price, because of all the competition between the tire manufactures.

Tim Kamholz
A.F.M #15
Newark, California



FIRST PERSON/OPINION

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I just called my broker and sold all of my Dunlop stock. Now, where can I get a Michelin T-shirt?

Tony Kerr
Jefferson City, Missouri



FIRST PERSON/OPINION

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From what I understand reading about Dunlop’s buy-up, one team rents all these dates and than invites other teams to join to cut down on cost.

This lead renter team is one that sold dates to Dunlop, and if this is a joint effort of all the teams, this lead team is who screwed up michelin/pirelli teams, not Dunlop or AMA. Unless these are offical AMA test dates I don’t see how anybody did anything wrong except the lead renter team screwing up competition and not holding to their words.

BTW: Michelins are best.

Zoran Vujasinovic
Reno, Nevada



FIRST PERSON/OPINION

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I, for one, am not at all surprised by Dunlop’s tactics regarding the test day “gobble-up.” Unfortunately, what is surprising, is AMA Pro Racing’s position on this issue. The fact that they actively participated in that process leads one to question, “Who really runs AMA Pro Racing?” Obviously, AMA Pro Racing’s agenda is to bow down to, or kneel in front of, Dunlop just because Dunlop said so. Dunlop’s business tactics are unsportsmanlike and shady; however, the conduct of AMA Pro Racing (and its leadership) is inexcuseable. AMA Pro Racing owes us an explanation followed shortly by an apology.

Tyson Silva
OMRRA #199
DirtyRottenBastards Racing
Lake Oswego, Oregon



FIRST PERSON/OPINION

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I can see it now-

this is a satirical press release that is probably closer than we think….

“Pickering, OH – Today AMA Pro Racing Director Mike Buckley announced that the AMA (American Motorcyclist Association) will be changing it’s name to the DMA (Dunlop Motorcyclist Association), to more accurately reflect its true mission, which is the furtherance of all of the member companies that are on the board of directors.

Director Buckley went on to state that the DMA will no longer allow unregistered or unapproved journalists, vendors, or competitors access to any events, tests, functions or other items of interest to the DMA and its subjects.

Buckley further stated that effective 90 days ago, the DMA will require that all companies desiring to use or provide product or services that will be used in DMA competition or other DMA sanctioned events must be petitioned to the DMA board of directors 1 year in advance of the desired review date.


Products and services will be reviewed for technical and performance merit by the DMA staff. If they are found in compliance, a certificate will be issued allowing use on a trial basis for 10 days. If after that period the DMA determines that the product/service is not a threat to the dominance of the DMA member controllers, it will be approved for use by privateer members, until they can be eliminated from all DMA sanctioned events.

For additonal information or comments on this release, don’ t call or write us, as we tire of constantly hearing your complaints about our management of our organization.

Additionally, we are raising the DMA dues by 20% to cover the cost of the DMA track testing dates, retroactive to 12/31/03.

Sincerely,

Mike Buckley
DMA Director/President

DMA is a registered trademark of the Dunlop Motorcyclist Association, a non-profit organization dedicated to the profit of all its corporate members on the board of directors.

Disclaimer-This is a bogus press release made up to reflect the feelings of a very disgusted member at the ongoing abuses of office of the directors of the AMA. It currently mostly false statements.

Mark Lewellen
Ozark, Missouri



FIRST PERSON/OPINION

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I’ll weigh in with the rest of the riff-raff. Tire wars (and the resulting effects) have been going on in professional motorcycle racing forever. Anyone who has watched, attended or raced certainly knows this.

No one over here in the States groused with the new spec tire rules in WSC, but now all of a sudden everyone is up in arms because Dunlop is playing hardball in our backyard? This is a business, like it or not. If I was a competing company (or team shod with that company’s tires) pitch the ball back, even harder.

As has been said by a few, racing is war. Especially at this level. Like a war, the tide of battle will ebb and flow. But like a train wreck, we’ll all sit fascinated and watch. It’s part of the silly season, and in some ways keeps us busy kvetching in the off-season. Private companies like ZoomZoom Trackdays are already extending themselves to provide alternative testing dates and I’m sure more will step up to the plate. It’s not the end of the world, people. It’s hard, cold business.

The battle will move on, eventually to the racetrack where it rightly belongs. I for one won’t be switching from Dunlops because of this.

Jim Race
AFM #250
San Mateo, California



FIRST PERSON/OPINION

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I dub thee, Dumlop, because you are a pretty dumb outfit.

You must think the fans are pretty dumb, too.

If I ever manage to purchase another motorcycle, it won’t be wearing Dumlops.

Dianne Sawyer, in an ABC TV interview, 12-16-04, asked GW Bush about all of his pre-war prevarications and he said, “What difference does it make?” Sounds like something a Dumlop exec would say, regarding how their customers and fans feel about their recent decisions.

Andy Schwarm
Monrovia, California



FIRST PERSON/OPINION

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Alright, that did it. Three times I have sat down at this computer to type a formidable response to all this Dunlop bashing, and three times I have gotten up without sending. I hope I do better this time.

1 – If you tally up a somewhat accurate estimate of all the Dunlop laps successfully completed at Daytona in 2003 alone, the number is pretty huge. Two failures occurred last year ( in testing, I believe ), which puts their success rate at over 99.99%. That’s a damn good record.

2 – Racing conditions change all the time. That’s why we change tires. 2003 saw some big time changes as far as weight, average horsepower per entrant, and top speeds. As a result, as far as tires go, what used to work doesn’t any more, so Dunlop is changing tires. We should all consider ourselves lucky to have a company as committed as Dunlop to choose from. Remember, no one kept Michelin away all these years. They did that on their own. Coming to America in 2004 was not, and is not their first choice.

3 – If even half the number of riders at Daytona last year were on tires other than Dunlop, and they matched the number of laps and speed of either Spies or Disalvo (never mind the others), chances are they would be facing the same problems by now. You don’t think so? Go find Walt at Michelin in March. Ask him to put on a medium compound rear for your next race, and then watch his face turn pale. Truth is, the laws of physics are in control up on that banking, and we keep multiplying them by going faster. No one has a sure way around this new challenge. I think Dunlop is bearing the burden of everyone’s tire problem, it’s just that most of the fastest bikes up there don’t use anything but Dunlop, so they get to wear the egg.

4 – Anyone bashing Dunlop, or any of their employees, really ought to check themselves. I have never met, watched, or worked with a more professional group of people in my racing life. Here’s my proof: In October of 2001 I headed to Daytona with a plan to win a race I was pretty confident I could. Jim Allen helped me make that plan. I got through practice after practice, and the Dunlop guys checked me out every time. We had a great starting position, turned fast laps in practice, and had a strong chance of winning. Then the weather set in. Is it going to be dry, is it going to be wet? Should we put on an intermediate just in case? The clock ticked closer to race time, and I was pretty revved up. Either way, rain or not, I knew I would be up there and out front. Fifteen minutes before our plan saw the flag drop, I found Jim Allen and pointed to the skies. I told him Dunlop was not alone on our grid, but that we stood a strong chance to win. He looked up, and he looked over. Rain on one side, dry on the other. So I said, “Which one Jim. Which tire?” He said, “I think you should park it. Come again to race another day.”

That answer crushed me. But the more I have thought about it since that day, the more it has made sense. So I parked it. Jim Allen certainly treats club racers with respect.

5 – Running scared? Trying to monopolizing U.S. racing by securing your own test dates? I don’t see that. If Michelin is committed, which it looks like they are, then they will represent formidable competition. You should never underestimate your competition. Don’t blame the-last minute moves on Dunlop. They’ve been here all along, doing the best they can do. It’s Michelin that decided only two months ago to take on Dunlop in America. Dunlop is just reacting to another change in racing conditions. “Team testing” should be easily defined by its name alone. And these two companies are definitely not on the same team.

6 – I will watch this years 200 with new found interest. I think we all will. When I do I will wish I was racing it, and I will wish I was on Dunlops.

Good luck to all who enter,

Eric Gulbransen
Menlo Park, California



FIRST PERSON/OPINION

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If you are still interested in posting responses to Dunlop’s well publicized testing move, here is one more:

I was going to buy Dunlops for the off road (desert) racing I will be doing this summer. I would rather my money go to a company that is has class and guts, so I am shopping for another brand now.

Tony Garcia
Morro Bay, California



FIRST PERSON/OPINION

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I own two streetbikes and two dirtbikes. Until last week, they all had Dunlop rubber.

That is approximately $900 in tires that I spend, annually.

I guess Dunlop doesn’t need my money.

Oh yeah, I race too. But they don’t need that $1200+ per year, either.

John Giordano
Hooksett, New Hampshire

FIRST PERSON/OPINION

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People may not like the stance that Dunlop has taken regarding the closed tire sessions. It does smell a bit like a monopoly, but as they said in their lastest response: It doesn’t preclude other tire manufacturers from doing their own closed sessions. I think they see that they DO need to step it up a bit now that Michelin has decided to come into the fray. It is just business after all.

Maurice Thune
Chino Hills, California



FIRST PERSON/OPINION

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AMA not involved, that’s a joke, just because they are not physically running the test date is meaningless. The rule structure that allows private tests is what needs to be abolished. All competitors should have equal access to test dates. Frankly, I believe that all testing at facilities that you race at should be abolished. It is impossible to give a privateer equal access as, let’s say, Team Honda, Yamaha, Ducati or Michelin or team Rubber Duckie. The only equal access is no access–if you want to practice(test) at PPIR or Talledega, fine; at Daytona, no way.

To blank off a small period of time directly before a race is meaningless.

If you can’t see the problem with having manufacturers directly involved in racing employees on the racing board, I can’t help that. Nobody from Honda, Yamaha, etc., Michelin, Dunlop or any manufacture of racing equipment should be on the board; the conflict of interest is plain as day. Besides no successful professional racing organization has had a board managing its affairs. Until the control of motorcycle racing in the U.S. is wrestled away from a board full of conflicted interests, motorcycle racing in the U.S. will always be a minor league sport at best. The only interest the racing controlling body should have is safety for the participants, entertainment for the fans, and equal competition under the rules.

Allen Gnuschke
Loveland, Colorado



FIRST PERSON/OPINION

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Some of the responses by the Dunlop defenders are interesting, and even largely with merit. What Dunlop has done is perfectly acceptable and legal capitalist business practice. That is not, in my eyes, in dispute. The late stage change of past practice, effectively hamstringing their competition, is however very unsportsmanlike. In our NBA and MLB fueled country, perhaps sportsmanship is not held in high esteem. Others of us feel differently however, and will feel free to exercize our own rights as Americans and capitalists, and refuse to reward Dunlop, instead opting for Michelin, Pirelli, and Metzeler. Legal is not the same as ethical, and not all methods of competing are as evolved or sportsmanlike. This is neither immature, nor a case of bandwagon boarding, or any other sort of questionably-mature name calling. Just making our own judgements, and playing capitalist ourselves. My new Pilot Sports are already on the way.

Roger Albert
Shop owner and consumer
Austin, Texas



FIRST PERSON/OPINION

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Dunlop buying out track test days and preventing the competition, non-Dunlop teams, to practice alongside prevents them from looking inferior to the competition. Hey AMA, be very careful while doing the nasty with Dunlop, their rubber seems to break! Oops!

Also, my 999 Duc rides on Michelins, my ’04 Busa rides on Bridgestone and all three of my cars ride on Michelins as well. Some simple advice for Dunlop: If you can’t hang with the big dogs, stay on the porch!

Mario Casillas
Fredericksburg, Virginia



FIRST PERSON/OPINION

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An open letter to Dunlop and all of its management:

To whom it may concern, You suck.

Sincerely,

Gary Carter
#99 CRA, CCS
#919 AMA
Minneapolis, Minnesota



FIRST PERSON/OPINION

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First off, I’ve never rode on anything other than Dunlops, especially while racing. I will stand behind and support Dunlop in this decision and will most definitely continue to buy their tires and work with the great guys at Sport Tire Services and the Northwest distributor.

I have to agree with Eric from Menlo Park, California. He hit it right on. Dunlop has done something they should have been doing all along and that is to have closed tire tests. I think that it is absolutely a great business decision.

In any other industry if you have something that is going to be new to market or making an awesome product even better, you sure as hell don’t do it so all your competitors can see what you are doing. Dunlop is just going in this direction from what I can tell and I for one support Dunlop.

GOOD LUCK to all the DUNLOP-shod teams in 2004.

Luke Gaylor
WMRRA #158
OMRRA #158
Kent, Washington



FIRST PERSON/OPINION

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We may not like what Dunlop has done, in fact a lot of us find it pretty slimy, but I agree with Tim Kamholz. Our local Dunlop guy (Terry Newby – Sport Tire Services) has, and will continue to do, everything he can for his local club racers. In 2002, when I was heading out to VIR for the USGPRU final, there was rumor that 125 tires were in shortage. Terry graciously contacted his East Coast partners, made sure there was no truth to the rumor, and even offered to send me tires in advance if I was still worried (enough for all of those making the trip). He did far more than I would ever expect a tire vendor to do, he took care of his customers even though we spent the $ with the East Coast Dunlop guys.

I may not personally like what Dunlop corporate is doing, but that doesn’t mean I’d give up supporting my local Dunlop vendor who has gone out of his way to help out his local club racer! (ask Terry about his long haul to Portland for the USGPRU race up there when their freight guys went out of business!)

Our local vendors have done nothing wrong. We should continue to support them and the value they bring to club racing. You won’t see me jumping the bandwagon.

John Rabasa
AFM #789/USGPRU #789
Santa Clara, California



FIRST PERSON/OPINION

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Dunlop and their execs have made a bad move. Not in the business sense, mind you. If I call you up and say “sure, you can test with me,” that’s as good as a handshake or a written contract to me. To you, I would think it would mean the same. But, to buy-out all the test dates, without ramifications…..is simply unethical in my books.

It’s no different than taking your hand away after we were about to shake. At the least, any test dates that can’t be made for the other teams because of the late date, Dunlop should show a “good faith” agreement and allow them to test. To me, that would clean the slate.

Darick Pash
CMRA #123
Abilene, Texas



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After 15 years of advertising with your paper, Steve Brubaker, Terry Newby and I have decided to stop.

Please cancel our 1/2-page ads. We no longer wish to do business with Roadracing World. We’ll take our business elsewhere.

Dennis Smith
Sport Tire Services
Paso Robles, California



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Let Dunlop know how you feel about their recent actions

http://www.dunlopmotorcycle.com/contact.asp

Scott Weber
Minneapolis, Minnesota.



See related posts:

1/8/2004 Updated Post: Dunlop Buys Up AMA Team Test Dates, Excludes Non-Dunlop Teams

1/12/2004 AMA Director And Dunlop Vice President Buckley Personally Arranged Buyout Of AMA Co-op Team Tests To Stifle Competition

1/13/2004 Dunlop Issues Statement On Buy-up Of AMA Team Co-op Test Dates